Dec
13
2009
The MMA Analyst Presents: Brock Lesnar & The HW Division
Posted by: mmafan in Mma News, tags: Analyst, Brock, Division, Lesnar, Presents
My Thoughts.
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December 13th, 2009 at 5:00 am
Glad you mentioned Overeem, the guy is the biggest threat to Fedor. UFC need to sign him if at all possible in 2010.
Worlds best heavyweights:
1 Fedor
2 Overeem
3 Barnett
4 Lesnar
December 13th, 2009 at 5:20 am
good video.
December 13th, 2009 at 6:18 am
Why are any of you comparing Lesnar and Fedor… Its never going to happen so please stop bringing Fedor into this. Last time i checked this is a Lesnar video so lets talk about Brock.
Arona will never fight and niether will Allistair so stop talking about it. People like to talk predictions about fighters and say they will beat Brock but they are not seen as elite fighters in a UFC point of veiw
December 13th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Brock Lesnar has never been knocked down or rocked ever. Nobody that’s ever hit him has hurt him or phased him in any way. Carwin and Cain however has been rocked and knocked down. Same could say about FEDOR, but the big difference is size Fedor has been dropped on his head and rocked several times in his career and has even been taken down. Brock Lesnar would not lose until he gets out of shaped and tired but I don’t see that happening for awhile. Crocop is gonna get handled just like Kongo did
December 13th, 2009 at 7:34 am
you make alot of sense, ive been saying overeem would knock seven shades of shit out of lesnar imo and i think carwin would ko him, also JDS and CC could as well, i dont give cain much of a chance, i think it would look like couture. and fedor would zulu him. i think josh would look just like mir though.
December 13th, 2009 at 8:02 am
I’ve taken you too literally. But those are upsets of expectations not impossibilities. Matt Serra can beat GSP if he punches him in the face enough times. Gonzaga can KO Cro Cop if he lands a hard enough head kick. These are what these strikes are meant to do. And these are fighters trained to use them.
And I didn’t mean useless as in stupid. But unuseable. It’s technically true, but not in any way useable, because the opposite is equally true. The reasoning cancels itself out.
December 13th, 2009 at 8:11 am
It might look like a stupid argument but it’s true, before the fight everyone tough that Serra knocking GSP out was something that never was going to happen and guess what it happened the same with Gonzaga and CC, and the Nogueira brothers vs Soko and Mir, in MMA shits can and will happen.
December 13th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Send the link.
PS. Fedor is never fighting in the UFC.
I will do a vid for sure, Zerocool
December 13th, 2009 at 8:23 am
That is a poor basis for an argument. Because if anything can happen then anything opposite can happen. It’s a useless point.
December 13th, 2009 at 8:42 am
You’re not making any points I haven’t already addressed and countered. Reread my post history if you need to. And you’re right about this getting repetitive.
December 13th, 2009 at 8:44 am
And if you can’t understand that anything can happen in a MMA fight is because you haven’t seen enough MMA.
December 13th, 2009 at 8:57 am
You’re are forgetting the main evidence in all of those fights, and the main evidence is that Fedor won all of those fights, he submitted all of the opponents that mount him with Arona being the only exception and Brock is not as near as good as Arona in submissions, plus Fedor vs Arona was long ago with a different rule set, Fedor has improved every aspect of his game, he can be the same person but his fighting skills are completely different.
December 13th, 2009 at 9:19 am
basically if you want to see it go to latimes com and search for it or message me for the link. sorry for the triple post.
December 13th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Youtube wont let me post a link to the proof so message me if you want the link. Also MMA analyst it would be really cool if you made a video about what you think of Fedor finally coming to the ufc. Once again if you wnat the link to the proof message me.
December 13th, 2009 at 11:06 am
OMG Fedor is coming to the UFC it should be announced on Friday.
December 13th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Great video man. Although I have to disagree with you on the Fedor vs Brock fight lol
December 13th, 2009 at 11:37 am
This shows immaturity. Have I ever called you names, treated you like an idiot, or made a disparaging post behind your back?
No. I took your every argument head-on and countered every post directly. That you’re getting frustrated is not a problem. This is a somewhat heated argument. But that you’re offended about a hypothetical so completely removed from your personal life that you’d resort to insults behind my back. Really, if it affects you that strongly, you can just stop participating.
December 13th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Side control is easier because both your legs are free. But both moves just involve throwing your leg over your opponents. If your opponent doesn’t block the pass then it’s very easy.
Hunt just threw his leg over Fedor’s. Twice. And as I said, Arona and Coleman mounted. The indication here is Fedor’s consistently mountable.
Brock had near-mounts (only his foot was trapped) on all his opponents but Mir. He mounted Kim. That shows those skills.
You are wrong again.
December 13th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I’ve restated my arguments responding to 6 or 7 different people. All arguing basically the same points and never reading my other posts.
And none of your arguments held against the real examples of Fedor’s opponents in dominant positions. Everyone’s tried to dismiss, excuse or diminish these events. The evidence is right here on Youtube.
Now you’re using an “anything can happen” argument. Well then by that ridiculous premise, Cheick Kongo can armbar Fedor. As anything can happen.
December 13th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Dude, this wimblenimble guy doesn’t get it. It’s like arguing with a 12 year old.
December 13th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
No, you’re wrong. Passing from side control to mount is much easier than jumping straight to half guard, because it’s a more dominant position. But what’s relevant is how Hunt ended up in side control to begin with. First he reversed an armbar, then he reversed a throw attempt ( I was wrong earlier). Lesnar has never demonstrated these skills. Lesnar shoots a double leg, takes people down, and pins them. You’ve proven to me yet again that you don’t know the difference between wrestling and bjj.
December 13th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Come on man, I have told you many times why I think Fedor would defend himself against Brock far better than Mir, and you have told me why you think it would be no difference, do we really need to repeat our statements again and again?
We both know that anything can happen in MMA, so the possibility of Brock laying Fedor for five rounds is as good as the possibility of Fedor knocking Brock out cold.
December 13th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Fedor had a hellish time grappling with Mark Hunt. How do you expect Fedor to beat an equally enormous, stronger, faster and better Brock?
And Fedor’s been taken down and mounted by far weaker and smaller guys than Brock (Arona, Coleman, Randleman). Fedor couldn’t KO any of them before their takedowns. He won’t be able to against Brock. In the same positions (mount, rear-mount, even half-guard) Brock would brutalize Fedor like he did Mir.
December 13th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Brock = Laying Whale Technich.
Lay on top. Let your anabolic weight do the job. When the time comes, pound.
Effective? Yes, against a smaller guy. Exciting? Hell no.
Fedor could beat him just becase Fedor, regardless of his size, punches as hard as Brock and will not be put on his back.
December 13th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
The second Mir-Lesnar fight? Saw it. Have been arguing about it for days.
Agreed. Very bad kneebar.
And actually when they weren’t chest to chest, Brock just held him down with a choke. Mir had no opportunity or ability to escape.